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[新闻] 中国应借人口普查统计住房空置率

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发表于 2010-8-28 22:34:05 | 显示全部楼层
算了直接看这个吧,翻译过来的总是不太准.
美国的系统的确很强大,能不能适用中国是另外一回事.

Vacancy Status

The data on vacancy status were obtained only for a sample of cases in the computer-assistedpersonal interview (known as “CAPI”) follow-up by field representatives. Data on vacancystatus were obtained at the time of the personal visit. Vacancy status and other characteristicsof vacant units were determined by field representatives obtaining information fromlandlords, owners, neighbors, rental agents, and others. Vacant units are subdividedaccording to their housing market classification as follows:

For Rent – These are vacant units offered “for rent,” and vacant units offered either “forrent” or “for sale.”
我们说黑灯房应该属于这部分,不过不能区分个人出租或者公司出租.因为国内大部分个人估计即使出租房子也从来不交税,所以不会说这个房子是专门用来出租的.

Rented, Not Occupied – These are vacant units rented but not yet occupied, including unitswhere money has been paid or agreed upon, but the renter has not yet moved in.

For Sale Only – These are vacant units being offered “for sale only,” including units incooperatives and condominium projects if the individual units are offered “for sale only.” Ifunits are offered either “for rent” or “for sale” they are included in the “for rent”classification.

Sold, Not Occupied – These are vacant units sold but not yet occupied, including units thathave been sold recently, but the new owner has not yet moved in.

For Seasonal, Recreational, or Occasional Use – These are vacant units used or intendedfor use only in certain seasons or for weekends or other occasional use throughout the year.Seasonal units include those used for summer or winter sports or recreation, such as beachcottages and hunting cabins. Seasonal units also may include quarters for such workers asherders and loggers. Interval ownership units, sometimes called shared-ownership or time-sharing condominiums, also are included here.
这个是楼主所谓的季节性空置房,明显不适用于中国.

For Migrant Workers – These include vacant units intended for occupancy by migratoryworkers employed in farm work during the crop season. (Work in a cannery, a freezer plant,or a food-processing plant is not farm work.)

Other Vacant – If a vacant unit does not fall into any of the categories specified above, it isclassified as “Other vacant.” For example, this category includes units held for occupancy by a caretaker or janitor, and units held for personal reasons of the owner.
当然黑灯房也很可能属于这部分,见粗体.

Homeowner Vacancy Rate – The homeowner vacancy rate is the proportion of thehomeowner inventory that is vacant “for sale.” It is computed by dividing the number ofvacant units “for sale only” by the sum of the owner-occupied units, vacant units that are “forsale only,” and vacant units that have been sold but not yet occupied, and then multiplying by100. This measure is rounded to the nearest tenth.
出售空置率,指房主搬家向卖房,也不适用于中国.

Rental Vacancy Rate – The rental vacancy rate is the proportion of the rental inventory thatis vacant “for rent.” It is computed by dividing the number of vacant units “for rent” by thesum of the renter-occupied units, vacant units that are “for rent,” and vacant units that have been rented but not yet occupied, and then multiplying by 100. This measure is rounded tothe nearest tenth.
出租空置率,因为分母For Rent –,由于个人出租很可能不报,所以才有楼主所说"只是值得一提的是,他们只是衡量住房二级市场上准备出租或出售的房屋空置情况,分子只是供出租的空置房或者只供出售的空置房,都不包含没有进入市场的空置房。"

Available Housing Vacancy Rate – The proportion of the housing inventory that is vacant-for-sale only and vacant-for-rent. It is computed by dividing the sum of vacant-for-sale onlyhousing units and vacant-for-rent housing units, by the sum of occupied units, vacant-for-saleonly housing units, vacant-sold-not occupied housing units, vacant-for-rent housing units,and vacant-rented-not-occupied housing units, and then multiplying by 100. This measure isrounded to the nearest tenth.

Comparability – The 1996-2004 American Community Survey and Census 2000 used asingle vacancy status category for units that were either “Rented or sold, not occupied”. Inthe 2005 ACS, there were two separate categories, “Rented, not occupied and “Sold, notoccupied.” This change created consistency among the ACS, the Housing Vacancy Survey,and the proposed 2010 Census vacancy status response options. The revised categories wereincorporated in the calculations of the rental vacancy rate and the homeowner vacancy rate
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 楼主| 发表于 2010-8-28 22:49:51 | 显示全部楼层
回复 15# feynord

我只是想说,不管你定义多少个词。。闲置也好,空置也罢,弃置也无妨。。

既然都是可以统计的,都给出数据就好
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发表于 2010-8-28 22:57:20 | 显示全部楼层
回复 17# 射命丸 文

所以说你还是没看我贴的东西,我觉得统计网民所说的黑灯房还是有难度.因为中国没有美国那样完善的个人所得税申报制度,所以不会有人说我的房是用来出租的.(还是直接收物业税好了...)

还有一点,就是通过朝阳的例子,你没有发现近几年政府对网上的意见反映的越来越快了么?
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 楼主| 发表于 2010-8-28 23:01:26 | 显示全部楼层
回复 18# feynord

别说难度,这些不是神才能做到的东西。。事在人为,人类的航天器都离开太阳系了

政府要做得好不是应份的吗?还要我去表扬它反映快?神经病!
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发表于 2010-8-29 07:03:22 | 显示全部楼层
回复 19# 射命丸 文

你说得都对.消消气阿.哪个体制都各有利弊,争取抓住有利的就好了.
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发表于 2010-8-30 09:05:42 | 显示全部楼层
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发表于 2010-9-3 08:00:57 | 显示全部楼层

统计局将在部分城市调查空置房

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发表于 2010-9-5 21:22:52 | 显示全部楼层
中国有的机构是速型的。。有的机构是慢型的!可能看出来。
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