被坑告别BIGADV党－16CORE是跑BIGADV的最低要求了？

heren3

回复  heren3

K系数肯定是没变化，兄弟上传是不是通过代理的？要是直传估计不会出现了 ...
金鹏 发表于 2011-11-16 14:09

过代理的，估计以前几个Base Point的6903也是过代理的

金鹏

回复 31# heren3

问题出在过代理上，你完成了结果上传，但是结果啥时从代理传到斯坦福服务器上才是决定你得分高低的因素了

refla

什么！我还专门上了 E1230 要跑 BIGADV 呢！！！


一早就蛋痛了一下。。。

金鹏

回复 33# refla

E文不好理解不了潘德逻辑核心和物理核心的表述

http://foldingforum.org/viewtopic.php?p=199180#p199180

by VijayPande » Wed Nov 16, 2011 12:57 am

Sorry for not being more clear in the post. It's 16 physical cores in terms of speed (to make the deadlines), but since the client just looks for logical cores (and can't tell the difference between logical and physical cores), the client hard minimum will be 16 logical cores (if we made the client minimum 32 cores, then there would be cases of people with 16 physical cores not working). Since this is a bit confusing to say, I tried to stress the speed needed (16 physical cores), but as before, the key determining issue will be making the deadlines (especially since some people often spoof the number of cores the client detects anyway).

We very much understand how upsetting any change is, especially since donors work hard to optimize their setups. That is why we tried to give advance notice, especially since people might buy new equipment over the holidays. Please keep in mind that BA is very much experimental and that future changes not just could happen but most likely will. We are making this change since as time marches on, pretty soon all new machines will be BA-capable, which defeats the purpose of the whole BA project.

Moreover, we understand that change is upsetting for donors, so we are trying to be much more conservative with changes to other parts of FAH.

zglloo

回复 34# 金鹏


    especially since some people often spoof the number of cores the client detects anyway

难道有人会作弊？

金鹏

回复 35# zglloo

这是公开的秘密了。

比如将1100T的6C模拟成8T跑BIGADV，将2600K模拟成12T跑BIGBETA

refla

回复 34# 金鹏

我连蒙带猜地想，潘德像是在说，新的 BA 要 16 个物理内核才能玩得转。。。

refla

逻辑内核应该是指 T

vmzy

潘大的意思应该是为了避免造假（包括16T），会把奖励期限设得很低（当然奖励系数会很高），如果作假还想拿奖励积分，除非把cpu超缩肛。

wpf999

以16物理核心为基准来制定截止期限，以后乖乖的跑smp普通包吧

refla

回复 39# vmzy

这样我大概有点明白了！

文中提到“can't tell the difference between logical and physical cores（无法区分逻辑core与物理core）”，除了是因为有人造假的因素外（哈哈，我从来就不认为老外的素质比我们高），我觉得更是指 AMD 的 6 cores 本应比 Intel 的 4 cores + 4 threads 更适合跑 BA，但却因为不合理的设定，反倒使得种子选手失去比赛资格。所以，新规定是以时间为限，而不是以 cores 为标准。

但接下来的问题就是，时限（deadline）到底是多少呢？难道真的是以 16 cores 为标准（I tried to stress the speed needed (16 physical cores)）？