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[新闻] 被坑告别BIGADV党-16CORE是跑BIGADV的最低要求了?

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发表于 2011-11-15 12:45:17 | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式
本帖最后由 金鹏 于 2011-11-18 22:44 编辑

http://folding.typepad.com/news/2011/11/index.html

2012年1月16日开始BIGADV坑爹无极限。。。CPU要求翻倍到16C ?。。。。。。

http://foldingforum.org/viewtopic.php?p=199180#p199180

by VijayPande » Wed Nov 16, 2011 12:57 am

Sorry for not being more clear in the post. It's 16 physical cores in terms of speed (to make the deadlines), but since the client just looks for logical cores (and can't tell the difference between logical and physical cores), the client hard minimum will be 16 logical cores (if we made the client minimum 32 cores, then there would be cases of people with 16 physical cores not working). Since this is a bit confusing to say, I tried to stress the speed needed (16 physical cores), but as before, the key determining issue will be making the deadlines (especially since some people often spoof the number of cores the client detects anyway).

We very much understand how upsetting any change is, especially since donors work hard to optimize their setups. That is why we tried to give advance notice, especially since people might buy new equipment over the holidays. Please keep in mind that BA is very much experimental and that future changes not just could happen but most likely will. We are making this change since as time marches on, pretty soon all new machines will be BA-capable, which defeats the purpose of the whole BA project.

Moreover, we understand that change is upsetting for donors, so we are trying to be much more conservative with changes to other parts of FAH.


November 14, 2011
Planned changes to "Big Advanced" (BA) projects, effective January 16, 2012
Big Advanced (BA) is an experimental type of Folding@home WUs intended for the most powerful machines in FAH. However, as time goes on, technology advances, and the characteristics associated with the most powerful machines changes. Due to these advances in hardware capabilities, we will need to periodically change the BA minimum requirements. Thus, we are shortening the deadlines of the BA projects. As a result, assignments will have a 16 core minimum. To give donors some advance warning, we are announcing this now, but the change will take place in 2 months: no earlier than on Monday January 16, 2012.

We understand that any changes to how FAH works is a disruption for donors, and we have been trying to minimize such changes. For that reason, we are not changing the points system at this time.

However, we want to emphasize that the BA program is experimental and that donors should expect changes in the future, potentially without a lot of notice (although we will try our best to give as much notice as we can). In particular, as hardware evolves, it is expected that we will need to change the nature of the BA WUs again in the future.
大意:
由于技术的改进和高性能计算机的发展,为了保持‘与时俱进’,计划于2012年1月16日起调整bigadv项目,将缩短时限,因此cpu下限将上调至16核。
需要强调的是bigadv是实验性的项目,所以将来还会不断的调整。
vmzy 发表于 2011-11-15 10:04
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发表于 2011-11-15 12:55:25 | 显示全部楼层
本帖最后由 wpf999 于 2011-11-15 13:21 编辑

只有搞双路主板,上2颗四核八线程CPU
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 楼主| 发表于 2011-11-15 14:06:54 | 显示全部楼层
回复 2# wpf999


    严重影响3213的PPD啊,目前大部分兄弟的跑的都是BIGADV,能上双路的没几个啊
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发表于 2011-11-15 14:08:17 | 显示全部楼层
那看来只能SMP2了、、坑爹
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发表于 2011-11-15 14:28:54 | 显示全部楼层
看来提前入了三聚氰胺是一个明智的选择~

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发表于 2011-11-15 16:09:43 | 显示全部楼层
8C16T ??

双路的行不?
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发表于 2011-11-15 16:12:30 | 显示全部楼层
本帖最后由 eai 于 2011-11-15 16:19 编辑

16 CORE 和 16 T是不同概念吧,  core是核心,T是线程   像 X5675都只是 6 core,双路也只有12 core,还没能满足要求呢


金版你可能看错了,是 16 core不是16 T, 更加恐怖,必须 双路  8C16T才能满足要求
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 楼主| 发表于 2011-11-15 16:22:45 | 显示全部楼层
16 CORE 和 16 T是不同概念吧,  core是核心,T是线程   像 X5675都只是 6 core,双路也只有12 core,还没 ...
eai 发表于 2011-11-15 16:12



    原来BIGADV要求是8CORE,但是8T也能运行,所以4C8T都能接到WU
现在16T已经是翻倍的要求了
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发表于 2011-11-15 16:23:03 | 显示全部楼层
其实这样也好,积分公平性大增,要不然地主太多,严重打击贫下中农的积极性。

歪楼话题:
离开FAH 1年多,感觉FAH还是上BOINC平台才是王道。
想当年DC百家争鸣,现在还不是基本上都换boinc平台了。而且就是因为boinc平台的出现,降低了程序、平台开发的门槛,DC项目才出现了爆炸式的增长。连中科院都‘拿来主义’出CAS了(虽然不知道今后新闻里会不会又挂上所谓‘完全’自主研发的名号)。
FAH死扛也没用,要顺势而为。V7虽然比V6功能多了很多,但是目前的测试版bug实在太多了。斯坦福与其花那么多时间、金钱,去搞v7,还不如上boinc平台。又不是在天朝,科研经费再用不完也不能这么花啊。
FAH搞了十多年了,连个最起码的断线续传都实现不了,你能说不坑爹嘛(墙内淫民上传/下载个bigadv,容易吗)?!期待DC平台‘天下大同’的那一天。

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发表于 2011-11-15 16:51:19 | 显示全部楼层
门槛如此提高~~~

难道是要帮着INTEL实现更多的利润?

看来双路6C12T才会是今后一段时期的努力方向啊~~~
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发表于 2011-11-15 16:59:03 | 显示全部楼层
8C16T ??

双路的行不?
eai 发表于 2011-11-15 16:09



    这个没问题
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发表于 2011-11-15 17:17:49 | 显示全部楼层
16 CORE 和 16 T是不同概念吧,  core是核心,T是线程   像 X5675都只是 6 core,双路也只有12 core,还没 ...
eai 发表于 2011-11-15 16:12



    intel采用超线程技术,1个物理core产生2个Thread(逻辑core),对于操作系统来说,16Thread就是16core,例如,在windows任务管理器里,i7 2600会显示8个core,i3 2100显示4个core
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发表于 2011-11-15 17:28:45 | 显示全部楼层
回复 3# 金鹏


    SACO大神应该不受影响,3213ppd总体损失有限,我们再加大宣传力度,增加人数,弥补弥补,问题不大
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 楼主| 发表于 2011-11-15 17:31:31 | 显示全部楼层
回复  金鹏


    SACO大神应该不受影响,3213ppd总体损失有限,我们再加大宣传力度,增加人数,弥补弥补 ...
wpf999 发表于 2011-11-15 17:28



   二神不受影响,一老一家一王以及其他很多地主都严重受影响啊
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发表于 2011-11-15 17:49:29 | 显示全部楼层
本帖最后由 ocw 于 2011-11-15 17:57 编辑

回复 14# 金鹏


    轉用 amd 6272 就可以了  
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