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 楼主| 发表于 2009-7-6 11:45:55 | 显示全部楼层
July 04, 2009

updated windows SMP client -- expiration extended until July 4, 2010For those running the windows SMP client, I just wanted to remind donors that the previous client expires today and that an update has been available for a few days.  Please see the "Drop-in binary for current Windows SMP console client (6.24) Expires July 4, 2010" on our High Performance Client page (at the bottom of the page):

http://folding.stanford.edu/English/DownloadWinOther


You can also go directly to the update at this link:

Folding@home-Win32-x86.exe


Note that this is a "drop in replacement" which means that you would copy this binary on top of the existing binary.

For new installations, please use the previous package and install the replacement on top of it.
大意:
windows SMP 客户端到期了。现进行延期。请下载6.24版,直接覆盖老版本升级即可。新用户请先安装老版本再覆盖新版本进行升级。

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发表于 2009-7-6 11:54:08 | 显示全部楼层
感谢老大 ,不知道传说中的SMP2版本进展如何?
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-7-17 14:28:45 | 显示全部楼层
July 16, 2009

A new type of work unit

We are preparing for the public release of a new work unit category: extra-large advanced methods work units. Some background information is provided below; we'll update this thread with more details as they emerge.




Why a new work unit category?
We have some specific projects where we 1) have large simulation systems and 2) want to get results fast. As multi-core processors get more powerful, we can perform calculations on Folding@Home that
previously required supercomputing clusters.


What's different about these work units from the donor perspective?
These work units are special SMP work units that have larger upload and download sizes, shorter deadlines, and require more memory and CPU resources. That's why we've created a new category.


Is there any points incentive for running these work units?
The base value of these work units corresponds roughly to what an SMP work unit using the A2 core would yield on an equivalent calculation. However, because fast completion is a scientific priority for these work units, we are doing a **trial** of a new bonus scheme where faster WU completion yields a points bonus.


What systems can run these work units?
Right now, only Linux and OS/X systems can run these work units, and they require 8 or more cores. We prefer 8+ *physical* cores, although fast Core i7 machines that are dedicated folders have proven
sufficient during the testing process. The points incentives are designed to match appropriate resources to points value; if your machine is marginal for the extra-large work units, you're probably
better off running standard SMP.


Does this have any relation to the large-points value work units and recent high-scoring users?
Yes. The initial projects are 2681 and 2682, valued at ~25K points base. Although these point values seem high, the work units are correspondingly larger, so the base PPD (points per day) value is
roughly comparable to standard SMP.


A collaborator has donated a large amount of compute time to this project; those clients were initially running under username Anonymous/team 1. To give proper credit for the donation, we have
changed the username to PDC, team 1. During the period of this donation, there are at any time between 100 and 400 8-core clients running under this username (800-3200 cores total).


Please stay tuned for further details regarding the upcoming release.
大意:
新增extra-large advanced methods(超级)任务包类型。暂时只对MAC和LINUX平台SMP客户端开放。
此类任务特点,包大(上传/下载数据量大,小猫勿入),期限短(非7*24勿入),内存需求高(4G以下勿入),计算量大(8物理核以下cpu勿入),PPD高(理论ppd是GPU2的10倍)。

译者注:有这种BT任务,smp2夺取性能桂冠指日可待啊!搬小板凳等官方出smp2。

参加方式:
首先,检查你的硬件,带宽够不够,稳不稳定,能不能24小时开机,内存是否够(官方建议6G),cpu的物理内核是否达到8个,系统是否为OSX或LINUX。
其次,如果没有安装smp客户端,到官方下载标准版SMP客户端,安装。然后下载覆盖升级版内核程序。
Linux:
http://www.stanford.edu/~kasson/folding/linux/fah6
statically linked, MD5 sum 29d2ee580f6f79ac996ad29f22554ec0

and for the console OSX/Intel client:
http://www.stanford.edu/~kasson/folding/osx/fah6
MD5 sum 44eeb86e2a4f19a7266591deba504474

最后,在启动命令后挂参数-bigadv。如果之前挂了-adv参数的大侠,请替换为新的参数。

[ 本帖最后由 vmzy 于 2009-7-17 14:44 编辑 ]

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发表于 2009-7-17 15:52:56 | 显示全部楼层
很变态的要求,相信3213团队没几个符合这个要求,有这种硬件的人又不用linux,用linux的人一般又没这样豪华的配置
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发表于 2009-7-17 16:04:49 | 显示全部楼层
STU可真时髦。可不知他们是否真的有什么成果出来。一般的大学都比较低调的。不像他们这么“世俗”
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发表于 2009-7-18 00:53:56 | 显示全部楼层
原帖由 eai 于 2009-7-17 15:52 发表
很变态的要求,相信3213团队没几个符合这个要求,有这种硬件的人又不用linux,用linux的人一般又没这样豪华的配置


这些包明显是为农场主准备的呀~
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发表于 2009-7-18 09:54:09 | 显示全部楼层
至少8个物理内核决定目前桌面电脑无缘,
只有中端服务器及以上机器才能计算
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发表于 2009-7-18 11:19:41 | 显示全部楼层
如果八核心CPU、6G内存的PPD可达GPU2的10倍,那么四核心CPU、3G内存的PPD也应该能有GPU2的5倍喽?

如此说来GPU已经没有优势喽?

斯坦福如此易变的PPD政策让人厌恶!不具备起码的实事求是的科学精神。
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发表于 2009-7-18 17:26:42 | 显示全部楼层
苹果有双至强的工作站,2*4核可以满足要求,价格也够高。
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-7-20 11:20:03 | 显示全部楼层
i7+4G内存,勉强可以跑,新地主们,准备开工了。

Project #: 2681
Average time/frame: 42.6 m
CPU: i7 940 @ stock (2.93)
# of CPU sockets: 1
# of cores: 4 physical - 8 virtual
# of fahCore_A2 processes running: 8

RAM installed: 6 GB
RAM used by FAH: 3,615 MB

Project #: 2682
Average time/frame: 40.8 m
CPU: i7 920 oc'd (3.0)
# of CPU sockets: 1
# of cores: 4 physical - 8 virtual
# of fahCore_A2 processes running: 8

RAM installed: 6GB
RAM used by FAH: 3,622 MB
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发表于 2009-7-20 12:13:12 | 显示全部楼层

回复 #265 vmzy 的帖子

通过测算,I7、4G跑2681、2682的PPD值约为9000,并没有GPU2的5倍、10倍之多嘛。
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发表于 2009-7-20 12:13:17 | 显示全部楼层

回复 #265 vmzy 的帖子

RAM used by FAH: 3,615 MB
這麼耗內存
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发表于 2009-7-20 12:58:37 | 显示全部楼层
好像原文里面并没有提到PPD是GPU的很多倍这样的说法啊,
倒是说和SMP的差不多:
valued at ~25K points base. Although these point values seem high, the work units are correspondingly larger, so the base PPD (points per day) value is roughly comparable to standard SMP.
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发表于 2009-7-20 13:49:06 | 显示全部楼层
严重围观SMP2,如果能接近中端显卡,估计要引起新一轮升级CPU平台热的说
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-7-20 14:41:51 | 显示全部楼层
WU理论ppd计算方法:WU 积分/WU Preferred (days)。就是说如果你按时完成了WU,官方授予的积分,所得到的最小PPD。(有人又会问,为啥不用Final deadline (days),因为一过Preferred (days)官方就会当任务过期发副本给别人算,虽然你的WU会照常给分,但从科研角度讲,你算的WU只是一个可有可无的副本,没有多大的科学意义而已,这是一种严重的浪费)
BigAdv任务(2681):25403/4=6350.75
GPU2任务(5900):472/2=236
6350.75/236=26.9倍。
如果大家玩田忌赛马,拿GPU2的上等马(3路G275X2)和BigAdv的下等马(刚刚勉强能运行的i7)比,当然是GPU2快了。
不过如果真正要比的话,肯定还要参照价格,耗电量等等成本因素。而且BigAdv才刚开始测试,后面肯定还要调整积分策略。所以这里只是比,根据WU信息得出的理论最小PPD,仅供大家参考而已。
比的仅仅是WU任务,不是机器哈。

[ 本帖最后由 vmzy 于 2009-7-20 14:48 编辑 ]
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